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		<title>By: Lisa Wells</title>
		<link>http://www.400words.com/2007/02/04/cafe-worker/#comment-4420</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 21:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not at all. Well said.</description>
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		<title>By: shane</title>
		<link>http://www.400words.com/2007/02/04/cafe-worker/#comment-4414</link>
		<dc:creator>shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and we arrive at an agreement, and my point becomes more specific. i&#039;ll clarify, and i don&#039;t mind doing so.

when consolation is the sole intention of the consoler then they act in a benevolent manner, and the single minded &#039;helper&#039; seeks only to help  without discriminating between varying states of vitality. i have no doubt that an act of indifference or cruelty could be found in an attempt to alleviate sorrow, however, these would be consolations with one or more additional goals - thus straying from the unconditional into the realm of some selfcentered aspect. i cannot think of a case in which those statements could be disproven. 

consolation, by itself, is totally kind. as i see it.

i realize that possibly &#039;consolations are for the half alive&#039; is in fact some ancestral axiom (and if so, it would be doubly odd if the statement comforted you) and that by placing it under scrutiny i did not seek to offend.

i like the statement. it made me think. 
i thought it odd.

thank you for writing. i hope the responding process wasn&#039;t too unappealing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and we arrive at an agreement, and my point becomes more specific. i&#8217;ll clarify, and i don&#8217;t mind doing so.</p>
<p>when consolation is the sole intention of the consoler then they act in a benevolent manner, and the single minded &#8216;helper&#8217; seeks only to help  without discriminating between varying states of vitality. i have no doubt that an act of indifference or cruelty could be found in an attempt to alleviate sorrow, however, these would be consolations with one or more additional goals &#8211; thus straying from the unconditional into the realm of some selfcentered aspect. i cannot think of a case in which those statements could be disproven. </p>
<p>consolation, by itself, is totally kind. as i see it.</p>
<p>i realize that possibly &#8216;consolations are for the half alive&#8217; is in fact some ancestral axiom (and if so, it would be doubly odd if the statement comforted you) and that by placing it under scrutiny i did not seek to offend.</p>
<p>i like the statement. it made me think.<br />
i thought it odd.</p>
<p>thank you for writing. i hope the responding process wasn&#8217;t too unappealing.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Wells</title>
		<link>http://www.400words.com/2007/02/04/cafe-worker/#comment-3689</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I suppose if I stepped in here I would feel compelled to clarify or defend what I wrote in some way...which really doesn&#039;t appeal to me. I will say that the definition of consolation does not include &quot;comes from the kind,&quot; and that anytime someone offers consolation in an attempt to allay sane concerns about an abusive situation, they act as an enabler rather helper.
 
I did indeed make a big general statement. I feel okay with that, and even better that someone else felt moved to disagree. Thanks for your back and forth!
Lisa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I suppose if I stepped in here I would feel compelled to clarify or defend what I wrote in some way&#8230;which really doesn&#8217;t appeal to me. I will say that the definition of consolation does not include &#8220;comes from the kind,&#8221; and that anytime someone offers consolation in an attempt to allay sane concerns about an abusive situation, they act as an enabler rather helper.</p>
<p>I did indeed make a big general statement. I feel okay with that, and even better that someone else felt moved to disagree. Thanks for your back and forth!<br />
Lisa</p>
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		<title>By: reedin shane</title>
		<link>http://www.400words.com/2007/02/04/cafe-worker/#comment-1733</link>
		<dc:creator>reedin shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 04:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hurm. 

i possibly spend more time with dictionaries than consoling types, so all I have to work with is a definition - opening new window, typing, PERFECT consolation : that which consoles; a comfort. EXAMPLE: Your kindness was a consolation to me in my grief. 

perhaps : &quot;that specific consolation, saying this beats that, doesn&#039;t amount to much - and is for the half alive&quot;. but not the entirety of the communications which fall under the catagory of imparted solace.

I mean dang, I need consolation, as of late I need it FREQUENTLY, and I occasionally suffer much more greatly without it - and in my suffering, I&#039;m really really fucking ALIVE, completely one hundred percent every sorrowful cell SCREAMING alive, you know? and not consolation so that i can find hope - consolation so i can know that no matter what, someone has my back, i won&#039;t have to face the &#039;dark tea time of the soul&#039; alone. KNOWWHATIMEAN?

so i say : consolations are from the kind, for the presumably in need. and resisting them is like resisting an attempt at kindness instead of understanding kindness.

anywhoo. thanks Hannaaah. what does this Lisa think? hallo? LISA? response?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hurm. </p>
<p>i possibly spend more time with dictionaries than consoling types, so all I have to work with is a definition &#8211; opening new window, typing, PERFECT consolation : that which consoles; a comfort. EXAMPLE: Your kindness was a consolation to me in my grief. </p>
<p>perhaps : &#8220;that specific consolation, saying this beats that, doesn&#8217;t amount to much &#8211; and is for the half alive&#8221;. but not the entirety of the communications which fall under the catagory of imparted solace.</p>
<p>I mean dang, I need consolation, as of late I need it FREQUENTLY, and I occasionally suffer much more greatly without it &#8211; and in my suffering, I&#8217;m really really fucking ALIVE, completely one hundred percent every sorrowful cell SCREAMING alive, you know? and not consolation so that i can find hope &#8211; consolation so i can know that no matter what, someone has my back, i won&#8217;t have to face the &#8216;dark tea time of the soul&#8217; alone. KNOWWHATIMEAN?</p>
<p>so i say : consolations are from the kind, for the presumably in need. and resisting them is like resisting an attempt at kindness instead of understanding kindness.</p>
<p>anywhoo. thanks Hannaaah. what does this Lisa think? hallo? LISA? response?</p>
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		<title>By: hannah cranford</title>
		<link>http://www.400words.com/2007/02/04/cafe-worker/#comment-1562</link>
		<dc:creator>hannah cranford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 04:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in reaction to shane reed&#039;s comment-i think what lisa possibly means by consolation in that line- (my favorite of the piece) is the encouragement to be complacent with one&#039;s own current situation that one speaks to oneself internally or hears say, some unknowing if not dear relative telling them in their head. those encouragements can seem like false hopes when one looks back and evaluates the particular time the thoughts were silently verbalized. false because who wants hope to merely cope? coping and living are seemingly opposites. hence &quot;half-alive&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in reaction to shane reed&#8217;s comment-i think what lisa possibly means by consolation in that line- (my favorite of the piece) is the encouragement to be complacent with one&#8217;s own current situation that one speaks to oneself internally or hears say, some unknowing if not dear relative telling them in their head. those encouragements can seem like false hopes when one looks back and evaluates the particular time the thoughts were silently verbalized. false because who wants hope to merely cope? coping and living are seemingly opposites. hence &#8220;half-alive&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Reed</title>
		<link>http://www.400words.com/2007/02/04/cafe-worker/#comment-1557</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 00:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Consolations are for the half-alive&quot;....

What an odd statement. I&#039;ve always thought consolation, when received openly and without disdain (some abhor sympathy, adopting the mantra &#039;don&#039;t feel sorry for me&#039;, a highly respectable point of view as it seems to me), exists within the behavior bubble of kindness. 

and how I love to test someones kindness. drawing inspiration from Augustus Caeser, who dressed himself in beggars robes to observe his subjects without the dishonesty of the petty and cowardly, those seeking only to benefit, a curse frequently faced by the socially elevated, I occasionally pretend to struggle, locked in battle with some unseen demon, staggering and wounded, bleeding night and day, (perhaps I overdo it a bit... ) only to see how my peers treat me. the majority do not meet my basic expectations. zero mercy, zero consolation. rarely even a question - illegitimate assumptions manifest, the most convenient label stamped upon my brow like the mark of Caine, and eventually I find myself shamed rejected and forgotten. &quot;what a loser.&quot;

and I smile in smug satisfaction. 
who lost? who misses out? 

I sometimes wish I could ask someone &quot;Are you kind?&quot; and expect an honest and undiluted answer. Well, no sense in wishing, I sort of can: the recognition lies in the eyes, and defies any explanation. 

anyways. Cool story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Consolations are for the half-alive&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
<p>What an odd statement. I&#8217;ve always thought consolation, when received openly and without disdain (some abhor sympathy, adopting the mantra &#8216;don&#8217;t feel sorry for me&#8217;, a highly respectable point of view as it seems to me), exists within the behavior bubble of kindness. </p>
<p>and how I love to test someones kindness. drawing inspiration from Augustus Caeser, who dressed himself in beggars robes to observe his subjects without the dishonesty of the petty and cowardly, those seeking only to benefit, a curse frequently faced by the socially elevated, I occasionally pretend to struggle, locked in battle with some unseen demon, staggering and wounded, bleeding night and day, (perhaps I overdo it a bit&#8230; ) only to see how my peers treat me. the majority do not meet my basic expectations. zero mercy, zero consolation. rarely even a question &#8211; illegitimate assumptions manifest, the most convenient label stamped upon my brow like the mark of Caine, and eventually I find myself shamed rejected and forgotten. &#8220;what a loser.&#8221;</p>
<p>and I smile in smug satisfaction.<br />
who lost? who misses out? </p>
<p>I sometimes wish I could ask someone &#8220;Are you kind?&#8221; and expect an honest and undiluted answer. Well, no sense in wishing, I sort of can: the recognition lies in the eyes, and defies any explanation. </p>
<p>anyways. Cool story.</p>
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		<title>By: hannah cranford</title>
		<link>http://www.400words.com/2007/02/04/cafe-worker/#comment-1550</link>
		<dc:creator>hannah cranford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>writing is a wonderful medium/venue.
i do feel though that waiting for a published story is often waiting too long. unlike this formats ability to  allow for the opportunity to have my reaction heard, many books cant consider my feed-back, sympathy, alternate perspective.  i consider the conversation (yes you page and screen-gazers- verbal communication!) a more rewarding medium to receive knowledge, feeling, information, perspective, historical view, and other not-so-tangible understanding (aided by body language). one can learn a lot reading 400 words.  but i dare say i could digest more gesturing/verbalizing 300 to the guy next to me at the bus stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>writing is a wonderful medium/venue.<br />
i do feel though that waiting for a published story is often waiting too long. unlike this formats ability to  allow for the opportunity to have my reaction heard, many books cant consider my feed-back, sympathy, alternate perspective.  i consider the conversation (yes you page and screen-gazers- verbal communication!) a more rewarding medium to receive knowledge, feeling, information, perspective, historical view, and other not-so-tangible understanding (aided by body language). one can learn a lot reading 400 words.  but i dare say i could digest more gesturing/verbalizing 300 to the guy next to me at the bus stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://www.400words.com/2007/02/04/cafe-worker/#comment-1042</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha. starbucks vernacular. I was recently visiting my friend at his coffee shop when a customer came in and ordered a venti latte to go. He replied to her, &quot;I&#039;m sorry, I don&#039;t speak Italian. We have small, medium and large.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha. starbucks vernacular. I was recently visiting my friend at his coffee shop when a customer came in and ordered a venti latte to go. He replied to her, &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry, I don&#8217;t speak Italian. We have small, medium and large.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: martha</title>
		<link>http://www.400words.com/2007/02/04/cafe-worker/#comment-1022</link>
		<dc:creator>martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the last line. You&#039;re such a smart ass. In a good way. Well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the last line. You&#8217;re such a smart ass. In a good way. Well done.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosemarie DiMatteo</title>
		<link>http://www.400words.com/2007/02/04/cafe-worker/#comment-983</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosemarie DiMatteo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 15:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Beth,
Obviously, this cafe job is what you do to keep writing. I hope to find your work in published form (is it?) because this is the kind of work I look for and buy. I hope I get to see more. Writing this good doesn&#039;t happen that often, you know.
Cheers,
Rosemarie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Beth,<br />
Obviously, this cafe job is what you do to keep writing. I hope to find your work in published form (is it?) because this is the kind of work I look for and buy. I hope I get to see more. Writing this good doesn&#8217;t happen that often, you know.<br />
Cheers,<br />
Rosemarie</p>
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